[build]

[cosper123]

This is my attempt to put together the benifits of a Forest Master with epic divine might and Holy warrier.

Do the feats look appropriate or would anyone do something different? I am especially concerned if I can take Greater Charisma as a Fighter bonus feat.


War Domain, Time Domain
F(8), C(2), Hospitaler 10 Forest Master 10
Grey Orc

Str 18
Dex 10
Con 10
Int 8
Wis 16
Chr 14

CL Class Feat
1 Fight1 LOH, Alertness
2 Fight2 Power attack
3 Cleric1 Divine Might
4 Fight2 CHA +1
5 Fight 4 Toughness
6 Cleric2 Divine Sheild,
7 Hosp 1 Combat Expertise
8 Hosp 2 CHA +1
9 Hospt 3 Cleave
10 Hosp 4
11 FM1
12 FM2 Holy Warrior CHA+1
13 FM3
14 FM4 (str +2), Bonus Feat: Knockdown
15 FM5 Greater Cleave
16 FM6 CHA+1
17 FM7
18 FM8 Extend Spell
19 FM9
20 FM10 (str +2) (con +2) CHA+1
21 Hosp 5 Great Cha, Great Cha
22 Fight 5
23 Fight 6 Epic Divine Sheild, Epic Divine might
24 Fight 7 STR+1
25 Fight 8 Greater Weapon Focus, Epic weapon focus
26 Hosp 6
27 Hosp 7 armor skin
28 Hosp 8 STR+1
29 Hosp 9 feat , feat
30 Hosp 10

[cytoc]

Pretty certain you can't take stat boosters as a fighter bonus feat, however you may be able to from Hospitaler (I'm not 100% sure). Would also be quite surprised if you could take EDM as a fighter bonus feat.

Also, I've never heard of epic divine shield.

You need 13 int for combat expertise, so you'll have to go without that.

Neither LoH or alertness can be taken as bonus fighter feats, as far as I'm aware.

I'm also not sure if there's a better option than cleave / great cleave.

I don't like making a melee guy without blindfight.

Weapon specialisation is always nice.

If you're planning on using warmace, maybe consider monkey grip?

I like persistant spell for divine favour, seeing as it does not a level based spell with respect to duration. I'm not sure I'd bother with time domain without persistent spell, because an extended haste is pretty much the same as an extended battletide (but haste can be persisted).

I had a similar-ish build in mind, so I'll have a look and add in what I had in mind. Just want to run it as a test first


So here goes...

Aasimaar
Domains: I choose War, Pride. Would consider switching Pride for Earth to get a free toughness.

Deity: Silvanus

Str 16 (26)
Dex 10
Con 12
Int 12
Wis 16
Cha 17 (22)

1 Cl (1) Extend Spell
2 F (1) Pwr Att
3 F(2) Blind Fight, Toughness (other feat if you take earth)
4 Cl (2)
5 F (3)
6 Cl (3) Divine Might
7 F (4) Weapon Specialisation
8 Cl (4)
9 H (1) Cleave, Alertness
10 H (2)
11 H (3)
12 H (4) Divine Shield
13 F (5)
14 FM (1)
15 FM (2) Holy Warrior
16 FM (3)
17 FM (4)
18 FM (5) Persistent Spell (or monkey grip)
19 FM (6)
20 FM (7)
21 FM (8) G Cha
22 FM (9)
23 FM (10) G Str
24 H (5) Armor Skin
25 H (6) EDM
26 H (7)
27 H (8) G Str
28 H (9) Epic Prowess
29 H (10) G Str
30 F (6) Epic Toughness


Taking Pride gives you Greater Heroism. If you take earth, toughness is free, thus you can pick Practiced spell caster or Luck of heroes (could also take luck domain for this), or conversely time for persistent haste.

I'd also consider dropping the last two G Str, leaving you at 24 Str and picking up Monkey grip (or persistent spell if you took monkey grip earlier) and practiced spell caster, pushing your caster level up to 23.

[Beldar]

I would take time domain over earth domain. Toughness is nice, but premonition is better. Especially, when you add persistent haste.

I have my doubts about the value of blindfighting for this build - cast true seeing instead.

Cleave and great cleave are not necessary- forest master weapon buff provides this (unless it is a prereq for another class you need).

I would also consider pushing fighter to 8 levels. You could use one of the feats that I freed up above for greater weapon focus, and the additional fighter bonus feat for epic weapon focus. The additional AB will be beneficial. I would probably drop Hospitaler levels to do so.

I would use the additional feats I freed for monkey grip and expertise (dropping wisdom back to 14 and pumping INT to 14 - which will help you get all those skill point prereqs for FM (no able learner makes the survival costly). You'll still be able to cast lvl 9 spells with a +6 WIS ammy.

[cosper123]

Jan 16, 2009 5:42:28 GMT -5 cytoc said:

Pretty certain you can't take stat boosters as a fighter bonus feat, however you may be able to from Hospitaler (I'm not 100% sure). Would also be quite surprised if you could take EDM as a fighter bonus feat.

Well that sucks, I'll have to shift around some progression then to fit it in. Yeah hospitaler takes it's list from fighter feats so if no for fighter then no for hospitaler.

Didn't think about EDM thanks on that.

Jan 16, 2009 5:42:28 GMT -5 cytoc said:

Also, I've never heard of epic divine shield.
You need 13 int for combat expertise, so you'll have to go without that.

Well then you obviously don't drink heavily enough. I just assumed there was EDS lol, thanks for catching that. And yeah totally spaced on the 13 int for combat expertise.

Jan 16, 2009 5:42:28 GMT -5 cytoc said:

Neither LoH or alertness can be taken as bonus fighter feats, as far as I'm aware..

The LOH is intended to be taken on the initial feat. That sucks about alertness not being a bonus fighter feat, looks like I really need to better my research lol.

Thanks for your critique, it was very insightful.

[dordon]

I have a Holy Warrior + EDM + Forest Master build and he is buff. Probably my strongest character on the server. Couple of comments:

Taking FM at level 11 can be tough because of the skill requirements: 13 lore, 8 survival. It looks to me like you're going to be taking survival cross class, so you won't be able to take a FM level until level 14.

Lower your wisdom and use a wis amulet to get your wis high enough to cast your spells. My FM has a 13 wis I believe. You won't need a natural AC amulet, since the FM natural AC bonus is better but doesn't stack with the amulet.

Yuan-ti is a bit easier to do the build with I think, since you need cha. I found I also needed a 12 int to get all of the skillpoints to meet the pre-reqs in a timely fashion. Finally, if you wait until the next patch, Yuan-ti will get blindfighting and alertness as free bonus feats. (I'm almost tempted to remake my char just for that reason) (assuming they don't modify existing characters somehow)

[cosper123]

Jan 16, 2009 11:55:53 GMT -5 Beldar said:

Cleave and great cleave are not necessary- forest master weapon buff provides this (unless it is a prereq for another class you need).

Thought the descript just said Cleave. You sure it provides great cleave too?

[dordon]

Yes, at level 9 the FM weapon buff adds great cleave as a bonus feat.

[shoujo]

8 int - Will be a problem since you need to pump 2 skills to become an FM. That's another good reason to go YT.

Heartwarder - It's a full caster class that gets you +5 cha in 9 levels. Prereqs suck, but might be worth considering if you're that interested in preserving your caster level and don't mind being dependent on DP to function.

[cosper123]

Yeah the 8 int is certainly an issue. Ran the build through vordens and found many more issues. I'll repost when I get it shuffled around to see if anyone sees any fault at that point.