re-write our server lore?

[Loudent2]

In the general forum I talked about the history of the server. here I want to talk about the lore and, possibly, give it a bit of tweaking

I'd always wanted to do introduce the PW server via a SP module, but I just don't have the patience to build that kind of module.

Here's the deal with CoR, LDoA and RoTW, the spirit stone and everything.

CoR stands for Convergance of Realms. The idea is that there are multiple worlds/universes each a reflection of the other. Every person exists in every realm, but each life is different based on different choices and personalities. They may also be any race or any gender.

eons ago a powerful warlord who had congquered his verson of the realms discovered the secret of the multiverse and learned that if you destroy your alter-ego in another refelction the power is distrubuted among the rest (this concept is not new, it's an old story that's found a place in books and movies).

So he set about destroying all his alter-egos. This was aided by the fact that when you enter another version of the realms than your own you are, essentially, immortal. Your "spirit" is stored in the shard which is virtually indestructable and, as long as it exists, your physical body will be preserved.

This warlord has already killed off all/most of his alter-egos and has been conquering realm after realm, bringing death and destruction in his wake. He has grown beyond even the ability of the gods to control.

But there is hope. It was foretold of one that could defeat the Conquerer and a society (secret of course) was formed to seek out that one and bring them to *this* realm where they could be protected and nurtured into they grew into a power unto themselves. It is here that the last stand will take. for, in their own ream they can be killed, but not here.

Our original CoR PW (in NWN1) actually started you at the portal that brought you to this realm. No memory of who you were or what you did (effect of the portal) and through progress you learned of what had happened to you.

When building the NWN2 PW I wanted to start you out someplace a little more interesting than floating through abyss toward a portal and since I wanted to let people decide their own history I left the lore out of it.

However, each of you are not native to the realm. It may be that you were brought here as an infant so have lived here your whole life, but all of you have been through the portal (and thus have a spirit stone (it was originall called "spirit shard" but NWN2 killed that with their "silver shard" stuck in chest hokiness .

Not only that, you're all reflections of the same person.

So you see, regardless of your alignment you are all destined to "save" your respective worlds because it will fall to all of you to defeat "the great evil"

There we have it, the original Lore of the world. The question is: should we keep it or make it something different/better?

shout out your ideas. Alll are welcome.

[mammothtruk]

Well that does open the door to different portals in different starting locations. Some people grew up in lands edge and others in other places.

The everyone is the same person is interesting. Gives way to a struggling of characters against themselves to gain more power through the death of another. A possible PvP hook at a later time.

I would like to see the portals come into play more. Alternate reality portals such as we talked about over MSN. For those not privy to the conversation Ill explain. If you have played Hellgate London your going to understand better. There are portals that have a miniboss in them and you go in and kill said boss for loots. Well this would be kind of like that. The explanation of the portals here is a little different but keep that idea in mind. These portals would lead to a reality shard or pocket dimension cause I like to keep in thoughts in line with D&D terms for ease of reference. Inside would be a miniboss that could be all sorts of things since they are reflections of creatures, people, or even dreams. It can be hooked to quests to seal these tears in the verse, defeating your own reflection to gain more power, and any number of other things. Maybe someone in the world has ripped the fabric and wants you to go destroy their reflection self and will reward you with something.

lots and lots of background lore there that can and should be hooked into the server more and more as time goes on. I dont know about changes but I see lots of stuff there that can be done.

[slit518]

In the lore you should mention how Everod is the god of storms and is hiding his true power for the final battle. You should also mention that one of his best talents is to become a stone chicken, and whom ever rubs the chicken shall be granted good luck for the rest of their life. But this chicken has rarely been seen. Some say the power was given to Everod by a powerful magi.

[nicethugbert]

I guess there are assasination angles possible in the story, sort of like the road runner, beep beep.

[slit518]

So, did Everod get a page about being a Demi-God?

[yyrkoonstyphoon]

this is pretty interesting take on things. So we are the aspects of the same self that has all been brought here?

So, if i followed this properly, you can only be killed (perma death) on your home plane (which this is not) so us all being aspects of the same self protects us from 'the evil one' because we cannot be killed unless returned to our 'home plane' first. this also prevents us from ever approching his level of power because he has gained power by eliminating almost all of his reflections. none of the player base can take this approach, as only the one reflection that was native to this plane could be killed to gain power as the evil one is doing. I would assume the 'native' reflection has already been slain.

I would also have to assume that there is the potental for other reflections of the 'Great evil' realizing they too have all this power and how they got it. If one of the reflections getting killed sends the power to all the remaining reflections, each reflection would int turn be harder to kill than the last... and as he got down to say a dozen reflections, each of those would be very powerful....

I think the obvious question would be why have all our reflections been brought here and who has been doint this? is it one of our own reflections or is it one of the relfections of the evil one? and why here? because this is the only plane that the evil one can be killed on... it is his home plane...

Yeah, this could be very deep and a good thing to work with for many storylines...

and you could have portals to other planes and when you go there, you never know... it could be your home plane... so your stone shard disappears and you can die perma death... oh, exciting :}

[Loudent2]

Mar 13, 2009 7:27:41 GMT -5 yyrkoonstyphoon said:

this is pretty interesting take on things. So we are the aspects of the same self that has all been brought here?

Yes.

So, if i followed this properly, you can only be killed (perma death) on your home plane (which this is not) so us all being aspects of the same self protects us from 'the evil one' because we cannot be killed unless returned to our 'home plane' first.

Not entirely, and not that simply. There are ways of shattering spirit stones. And there are ways of disabling those who can't be killed (if I bury you in the middle of a mountain, what good is immortality?

I'd always planned to implement optional Epic content that had the risk of perma-death. Failure would shatter your spirit shard and you would be permanently dead (literally, the stone is tied into most of my system, without it you cannot respawn, you cannot take quests, you can't access any of your stone abilities), success would be additional epic level implemented like the HG legendary level system.

this also prevents us from ever approching his level of power because he has gained power by eliminating almost all of his reflections. none of the player base can take this approach, as only the one reflection that was native to this plane could be killed to gain power as the evil one is doing.

The hope is that the sum of the parts is greater than the whole. With each "person" building themselves up and making a united stand that they would be greater than "the great evil". Of course this isn't guaranteed.

I would assume the 'native' reflection has already been slain.

Perhaps.

I would also have to assume that there is the potental for other reflections of the 'Great evil' realizing they too have all this power and how they got it. If one of the reflections getting killed sends the power to all the remaining reflections, each reflection would int turn be harder to kill than the last... and as he got down to say a dozen reflections, each of those would be very powerful....

It's not distributed evenly (it can't be to make sense). It's assumed the one standing there when a reflection dies gets the lion's share.

I think the obvious question would be why have all our reflections been brought here and who has been doint this? is it one of our own reflections or is it one of the relfections of the evil one?

Indeed! And who built the binding portals? These are all excellent questions.

and why here? because this is the only plane that the evil one can be killed on... it is his home plane...

Hmm, very interesting. A take I had not considered. very interesting indeed.....

[yyrkoonstyphoon]

So this is kinda like Highlander, where the Koragan was killing all the others to gain the Lion's share of thier power?

Oh, and it is the players job to take the story to a place the dm has not yet considered ;D

[Loudent2]

I had not considered it a highlander type system, but now that you point it out the similarities are obvious. Of course I don't think the goal is to kill all the others in the gathering, but to defeat the great evil then return to your original worlds.

[nicethugbert]

But, what's to stop some version of yourself from continuing down the path of the Great Evil now that he has a bunch of his other selves in one location? PvP?

How many alternate worlds are there? How does his affect the gods?

[Beldar]

All aspects of myself want to join together to form Voltron and supplant the Great Evil with our own special brand of space bug crushing awesomeness.

Voltron will permit the gods to operate as before as long as they don't get in the way of his adamantine farming .

[nicethugbert]

Lol, voltron.

[Loudent2]

"...But, what's to stop some version of yourself from continuing down the path of the Great Evil now that he has a bunch of his other selves in one location? ..."

Sounds like what the bad guy will say in defeat at the end of a movie.

Which of course the good guys always replies: "We will always be here to stop them, old friend!"

[yyrkoonstyphoon]

Mar 13, 2009 14:03:41 GMT -5 nicethugbert said:

But, what's to stop some version of yourself from continuing down the path of the Great Evil now that he has a bunch of his other selves in one location? PvP?

How many alternate worlds are there? How does his affect the gods?

you can only kill one of your own reflections on its 'true' plane. Anyone with a shard is not on their true plane (i.e. all PCs) so the only way to continue on this path would be to return someone to their true plane (and figuring out which one it is in the multi verse would be an adventure in of itself) so you could kill them.

We are not reflections of the 'great evil' if i understood the storyline properly, but rather are reflections of a being other than the 'great evil'. Perhaps the person that brought us here was tempted in the same way as the evil and thought by bringing us all here, it would remove the temptation from themselves? If there is a great evil, chances are, this is a great good to try and counter it.

[cosper123]

I like to think of it as this is some sort of training grounds to prepare us to confront the great evil.